Gardiner argues that when on the port side boat No. A man in Australia, sent a letter to the Northern Star newspaper on July 31st 1996, which talks about a conversation his son had with Paddy. Actually, it is quite likely true that most of the Belfast 'delivery trip' crew did not sign on for Titanic's maiden voyage. J.P. Morgan and 50 others cancel passage, 25. We also have a substantial amount of supporting evidence to prove that Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved: 1. [American Inquiry, Day 7] There is no mention that he jumped in from B Deck. Excerpt from the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground" when director James Cameron explores B-52 during his 1995 dive. There are other photographs of Titanic with similar liberties such as the shot of her in Cherbourg at night which has been heavily doctored to look as if it was taken at night with her lights blazing. The warped keel apparently gave the Olympic a permanent a 2 degree list to port and the ship builders stated that it could not be corrected without rebuilding half of the ship. James Fenton (b. Firstly, it must be considered that these images were first released in 2012 and have been examined in minute detail by hundreds if not thousands of researchers and historians since then, so why has it taken 7 years for this to have been spotted, if it is indeed unusual? Damage from Olympic 's collision with Hawke was more significant 3. Claim: As welding had not yet been invented, it was customary for White Star Line to etch or cut the names of their liners into the steel and not rivet them to the outside. Ismay went on public record at the April 1912 United States Senate Hearings and also it was reported in the official public findings that the value of Titanic was "$7.5million" a figure independently verified by the New York Times and The Spectator ("$8 million") while insured at only "$5 million" (as reported at the Senate Inquiry, The New York Times and Lloyds itself). Although Fenton is absent from all the available crew lists, it doesn't immediately negate his story - the lists are not infallible, and we all saw how Leonardo Di- er, Jack Dawson blagged his . Titanic sailor's deathbed confession of 'switch' 15 $18.4 17.55 Silver Cricket Fob Recess Antiques 85.00 $104.27 99.42 Silver & M,O,P Fruit Knife.Sheff.1910 By J.Fenton. Act explaining that if they told of the real reason for the sinking, or the For a company that has miraculously been able to switch ships including hundreds of thousands of numbers on the back of wooden panels, without anyone knowing, this seems a rather farfetched and unlikely plan. They were metal plates which were screwed on. (Click to enlarge). The most telling aspect of this either unintentional -or possibly intentional- forgery, is the desperate need to do it. Most tellingly, if indeed "a large proportion of the engine crew" refused to work aboard Titanic because of rumours of a 'switch,' then why did these crewmen not speak out, especially after the disaster? Local "runners". Firstly, they had been postponed for a day due to bad weather. 12. Captain Smith was also, like the Captain on the Californian, they claim, also sleeping fully clothed in the chart room. 27. I saw a child who will never sleep. December 31 st 1911. His father, a hotel proprietor and licensed victualler, was also born in Portsmouth whilst his mother was a native of Alfriston, Sussex. Claim: Olympic could Numerous ships were stationed nearby despite a coal strike, 27. - Leading Fireman Charles Hendrickson (British Inquiry, Day 5). by passengers and crew familiar with the Olympic? 1949) grew up in Lincolnshire and Staffordshire and was educated at Repton and Magdalen College, Oxford where he won the prestigious Newdigate Prize for his sonnet sequence 'Our Western Furniture'. Veined marble is a naturally occurring metamorphic crystalline limestone and, like snowflakes and finger prints, no two pieces are the same. He had called Ignoring the technical error made in this claim and focusing on the difference in gross tonnage (GT or internal volume) of the two ships, yes there was indeed a difference. CourtesySteve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank? Also as above, if there were such large structural differences between the ships, how is it they are not noticeable in photographs and also spotted by passengers and crew familiar with the Olympic? Our editors will review what youve submitted and determine whether to revise the article. For those who have read this website, they will realise that there is certainly no evidence of a 'switch', all the claims have been exposed to reveal nothing but misinformation or fiction and most importantly that there is conclusive evidence to prove that it is Titanic that sank. But unsurprisingly in 2019 a new 'meme' appeared on the internet claiming to show evidence from the wreck site that repair work done to Olympic caused by the Hawke collision can be seen in wreck photographs, captioned with "YOU NEED PROOF? This woodwork has the reverse sides clearly marked. In fact, according to American researcher Jon Hollis, the bell recovered furniture and panelling was better that the Olympic is not accurate; furnishings and paneling aboard Titanic were, with the exception of unique rooms such as the There are three key points regarding this claim: 1. 'The Olympic Room' 8. How many crew and passengers were onboard prior to the rescue? Able Bodied Seaman Frederick Clench who was in lifeboat No. Firstly, it is true that the Carpathia had a capacity of more than what the Titanic was carrying - the Carpathia was certified for more than 2800. Olympic had 16 bow portholes. Take a look at the two photographs and compare for yourself. Linoleum flooring covered with carpets, 34. The crew aboard Titanic from Belfast to Southampton were (except for the deck officers) local operators (or "runners") who mostly worked on voyages that were made locally, and did this with a number of ships, not just Titanic. of the surviving crew. They were mostly Belfast men - i.e. Fenton was also active in the theatre scene. Going aft he passes boat No. It involves 3 photographs. In regard to J.P. Morgan cancelling "at the last minute," research by Mark Baber and posted on Encyclopedia Titanica actually reveals it to be an urban myth. single-ended boilers in Boiler Room No. 34. THIS IS NOT A THEORY. Even sailing at top speed through dangerous waters it arrived several hours after the sinking. While there is some slight confusion over which ship he is referring to "coming from Belfast to Southampton" there is certainly no evidence here of trying to conceal the identity of the two ships. Where is the photograph? Claim: Eyewitnesses themselves describe running along Titanics decks, but where they said there were promenades, there should have been cabins. 22. Most died of exposure in the freezing water of the North Atlantic because there were not enough lifeboats. . 35. Author Steve Hall: "The problem with that doco is it's 13 years old Of course it's Titanic.". The reality: In close-up we can clearly see that the name Titanic was actually sketched on to the negative/photograph to make it more visible and so cannot be used for reference. Alleged footage of Olympic's name on the wreck - it is obviously fake. by Burgess alone, with no collaboration from other eyewitnesses. Author Steve Hall admits it could be the Olympic Mark Chirnside writes regarding the bell in his dissertation: "The absence of a name on this bell does not prove that the ship was But please read this information first, where it clearly shows that Lloyds records do not agree with this at all. According to author Mark Chirnside "In April 1912, the passenger certificate of Titanic's rescue ship Carpathia (13,603 gross tons) certified her for 2,864 passengers and crew, yet she had lifeboat accommodation (boats under davits) for 702 persons. 11 [American Inquiry, Day 7]. To add more books, click here . An example of the many adverts that show the Olympic instead of Titanic - logical considering one was the older sister. between eighty and ninety feet.". her full speed if the weather cooperated. The ship had never been at There is of course some mystery over what really happened to Titanic's lifeboats after the disaster. (Click image to enlarge). We know that Titanic had spare propellers made (as after the disaster they were used for memorials) so it would not be unreasonable to expect Olympic was the same. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the length of Titanic name's hinting at a cover-up. Their reasoning is as follows: You can not add one thousand tons to a 46,000 ton ship and end up with a 46,000 ton ship. Regardless, the key issue with this claim - like so many - is that there is no verifiable record of this - no exact quotation, date, location, photograph or even independent testimony of the account. Secondly, and rather importantly, the names were not engraved on the lifeboats. Even if the insurance would not pay out the $750,000, IMM James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. He claimed also that the crew had been ordered to sign the official secrets act. Titanic's bulkheads were intentionally deficient To use this as evidence that it was actually the Olympic is certainly jumping to an extreme conclusion, especially with such a lack of supporting evidence. the cast iron fireplace with its veined marble surround to still be in place. Plainly put, the addition of 1,000 lbs [sic] to the Titanic still resulted in the Titanic weighing [sic] 46,000, which doesnt make a lot of sense. But of course there is overwhelming evidence it was the Titanic that sank, which places this particular claim as purely conspiracy conjecture, for which there is no logic, let alone evidence. But also it must be noted that there were tours of What is blatantly omitted in this claim is that of course - as Titanic had only just finished being fitted out and completed her sea trials and was on her maiden voyage (which only lasted 5 days), there was obviously not enough time to produce the required artwork and photographs of her. James J. Fenton, MD, is a pulmonologist at National Jewish Health. They also question why on the night of the collision the captain of the Californian decided to sleep fully clothed on a five and a half foot couch in the chart room and ordered that her boilers be kept fired up and the engines on standby. 8. They were also not on the gunwhales but on the sides of the lifeboat. If not, it is a moot point. As it was named the "Olympic Class" it would hence not be unusual to feature the first ship in any advertising. Claim: How can a ship with a bent keel go on to serve 24 years (1911-1935) without being fully repaired? in the Government. James Fenton was born in Lincoln in 1949 and educated at Magdalen College, Oxford where he won the Newdigate Prize for poetry. At least one of them would speak to someone, or at the very least have a deathbed confession and not one single report was ever made. surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one Order. (for more information see here). They He always maintained that the iceberg Titanic was at full steam but not achieving maximum speed Winning the prestigious Newdigate Prize at Oxford for his poem Our Western Furniture, Fenton seemed destined for poetic fame. Well, let's look at the image with and without the multi-coloured scribbles: Left: the original wreck image scaled up and rotated to match the 'meme'. distribution for 1910 being 30 percent after depreciation. Above right: Titanic , while still on the stocks and while fitting out in 1911, allegedly shows that there was no similar joint in her hull plating just ahead of her port side anchor. were being made to further increase the ships speed. full speed. However, there are several large issues with this theory. The letters for Titanic are shown here in embossed form when in reality the outlines were etched into the hull. About James Fenton. ", Claim: Author of two books exposing the theory, Steve Hall, has actually admitted on camera: "I would have to say the question remains open. "It was a somewhat quiet affair.". The Government man read the crew the Official Secrets This is demonstrably false information. It was written in response to an article Which brings us to a total of at least 1047 aboard the Carpathia on the night of the Titanic disaster. The answer to this is very simple: The name during her building and her sailing are in partly different positions because in the first construction image it was written over on the negative. There is photographic evidence of this being applied to Titanic, in the first week of March 1912 and which shows the stark contrast between the light grey primer and the fresh black top coat being applied, as seen below. If indeed Titanic had a room called "The Olympic Room" this would only appear superstitious if one believes the ships were switched. The ships that were launched were not launched in a finished state. When or where did he ever say he discovered this? (courtesy Steve Hall), According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, "the two additional portholes on Olympic were added about March 1912 during her short stay in Belfast and before the maiden voyage of Titanic. James Cameron had his work cut out for him when it came to getting Leonardo DiCaprio to star in "Titanic." The famed director was honored with a Hand and Footprint Ceremony at the TCL Chinese . If a 'switch' was true, why would you need to create a 'meme' that is demonstrably false, by switching an 'actual' image of Titanic with the Olympic? 2. The panelling used shows a number on the frame that says 401. Captain Smith was photographed by a newspaper photographer on the bridge of the Titanic. According to Bruce Ismay's testimony before the British Wreck Commission they planned to increase Carpathia was the planned rescue ship Was this to hide 12 months worth of scratches and marks on the linoleum's surface? The wheelhouse actually sits within the bridge enclosure and behind the forward bulwark (see deck plans below). performance, only two miles shy of Olympics best ever maiden voyage daily run, and she did that with only 21 Only a limited number of changes required for a switch 6. drive the ship at full speed.. 41. But this is not due to it being the Olympic. And if these researchers and historians are supposedly "in" on the conspiracy then why would they release this image at all and risk the 'truth' being known? There seems absolutely no reason to find any conspiracy here - the difference in gross tonnage is historical, mathematical and logical. Firstly because a collision resulting in water overflowing the top of a bulkhead was considered very unlikely. And, there is no evidence that I am aware of that points to the damage being more serious than was admitted Gardiners speculation notwithstanding. And the answer is the same. His wartime experiences heavily influenced his ensuing volumes of verse, which included the pamphlet Dead Soldiers (1981), containing a single poem on meeting Pol Pots brother in Cambodia; The Memory of War: Poems 19681982 (1982), including some of his student work; and Children in Exile (1983). and came to the conclusion that while elements of Fenton's background can be validated Sorry, no evidence of conspiracy here, just a touched up photograph. However it seems that conspiracy theorists make a deliberate mathematical error, and then label it 'conclusive evidence'. The evidence for this is that it is only mentioned . It could be compared to a short haul and long haul flights today -often requiring very different airline cabin crews. Both had the same configuration of portholes in March 1912. This is because, of course, as an insurance scam everything was a set up and rescue ships were in the area waiting for the sinking. In this photograph we see Captain Smith and First officer Murdoch on Olympic's bridge and clearly see a curved wheelhouse behind them. Obviously realising that planning a collision in the North Atlantic would be 28. The photograph used to support this allegation, "taken from the top of the huge steel gantry" is of the launch of Olympic's hull (painted white) on October 10, 1910 in Belfast, Ireland: It allegedly shows a flat wheelhouse, however on closer inspection no wheelhouse can be seen. something else, in this case an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. Titanic's sea trials were shorter than Olympic's (Click to enlarge), Titanic author Steve Hall summarises the porthole history: "At the time of the Titanic's launch there were 14 portholes in the port side plating between the focsle deck and the sheer line of the hull, but by December the same year, the ship was fitted with an additional 2 portholes, giving her a total of 16. Damage to Olympic caused by its collision with HMS Hawke. 1 2. James Cameron took meticulous steps to ensure historical accuracy when creating his 1997 box office hit, Titanic.Since then, Cameron has done extensive research not only on the Titanic itself but the victims of the ill-fated liner. Mark Chirnside reports the following: "The companys surplus on the profit - Lawrence Beesley "the forward deck was covered with ice that had tumbled over" ("The Loss of the SS Titanic"). did not do serious damage but when the cold water hit the coal fire, it Photographs taken of Titanic leaving Southampton also reveal a slight port list. Thirdly, the description "numerous" is very misleading. Difference in port side joint plating Ultimately, when asked about the Olympic 'switch' theory he went on record as saying the wreck is Titanic. and was the first national strike by coal miners in Britain, with the main goal securing a minimum wage. 2. anything like this. previously published on the 'switch' theory -no doubt due to the release of the book "The Riddle of the Titanic" in 1996. It is a measurement of volume or the enclosed internal space of a ship. The Hawke impacted the Olympic in the stern area. Refer to this previous point here for more information on the name Titanic on the wreck. While there were costs involved in repairing the damage in the Olympic/Hawke collision, and that the Olympic was out of service meant lost revenue, the fact is that as a business the White Star Line was not going bankrupt and there simply was no need for a 'switch'. Despite the overwhelming evidence and logic as presented in the previous page, 'switch' proponents will often raise a seemingly large number of questions, doubts, alleged inconsistencies and supposed evidence that has led some to believe the 'switch' is not only possible, but a reality. This photograph of Titanic leaving Belfast on her way to begin sea trials allegedly reveals discoloured plating in the same location where Olympic had damage after its collision with HMS Hawke. 24. Some go as far as to state that 'Lloyd's paid out $12,500,000'. saw a lot of iceon the deck Titanic was not open for the press and public inspection Where rust and marine life have flaked the top layers of paint from the hull of the wreck discovered by Dr Ballard patches of what appear to be white paint are exposed. (Click image to enlarge). Incidentally, Titanic's name was first filmed in 1987 by IFREMER and Titanic Ventures (later RMS TITANIC INC.) after they cleaned that part of the bow from rust. But for arguments sake let's take the larger of the two - the certified capacity number of both passengers and crew. However there is absolutely no evidence Olympic or Titanic ever had their names "riveted on". It must first be stated that it is correct that there is a difference between Olympic in Titanic in this regard. Claim: Also, at Titanic's launch, all of the windows on B-deck were evenly spaced out, yet on her maiden voyage they were seen as being unevenly spaced, just as Olympic's were. To prove this claim He continues that on the starboard side Steward Wheelton met Thomas Andrews on B Deck and that the boats were visible from the corridor on B Deck. (This was mentioned in Dan van der Vat and Robin Gardiners 1995 book, The Riddle of the Titanic, page 21.) However, in December 1911, during Titanic's fit out, she had 2 added to light the crews galley and wash room which resulted in a total of 16 as seen in the maiden voyage photographs. and impacted on the larger open spaces dictated by a ship aiming for luxury, instead of being a watertight battleship. Paddy said that the guilt of ", Olympic (left) and Titanic during construction at Harland & Wolff, Belfast. - Lookout Reginald Lee at the British Inquiry (Day 4) ice " fall inboard. About This Item. Mark's." But most tellingly, there is not one eyewitness account of ever seeing ice on the rigging. Lack of documentation - there is a noticeable lack of specific documentation or references to prove this claim. the shadows of the butt lap is still discernable." boilers were on. Paddy also said Mount Temple (50 miles) Canadian Pacific Steamship Company cargo ship, Westbound, London to St. John's, Newfoundland The reality is that Olympic and Titanic had differently pitched propeller blades so they would not have worked to their full potential had the blades been swapped from one ship to the other. 29. such as Titanic's A Deck promenade which was enclosed by a steel screen with sliding windows, to provide additional shelter, and the promenades on Titanic's B Deck which were reduced in size, and the space used for additional cabins and public rooms, including two luxury suites with private promenades. TITANIC SAILOR'S DEATHBED CONFESSION OF 'SWITCH' In 1912 Paddy claimed that he was a 22-year- old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. It came from a mold and so there should be no surprise they are exactly the same, that is what you expect from faux marble. Incidentally, although called 'Old Reliable' her 24 years Due to the lack of media coverage and to be able to compare our video with a period photograph of the time and look at the veining in the marble and realise it is the same thing, it was like a fingerprint. exploded and caused the fatal damage. Some have analysed the footage concluding for example that the X-shaped viewing field seen in the video is caused by the camera rig's lighting. The switch theory primarily rests on the alleged premise that the sinking was a deliberate act to recover insurance money, to rescue the White Star Line from bankruptcy. This New York Times newspaper article, printed prior to Titanic's departure, shows conclusively that Morgan would be in Venice on April 23 so he would be in no position to take the Titanic back to the United States and return in time. And as Titanic author Bruce Beveridge points out, the very reason it has a specific build number on it was due to the fact that the propellers were not interchangeable, due to the specific pitch of the blades designed for each ship. The full speed of the ship is 78 revolutions. But also there would be no need to. Claim: The unsinkable ship somehow had to become sinkablevery sinkable. Not content with an insurance scam 'switch' he also proposes that Titanic (really Olympic) hit, not an iceberg, but an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. Claim: A large proportion of the engine crew signed off just prior to the ill fated voyage starting from Southampton, during a coal shortage which meant that many sailors were out of work due to their ships being laid up. Olympic had an "overlap of the plates, or strakes" forward of the bow anchors (described as "the doubler forward at the bower anchors"), while Titanic was different in that "the strake butted up against the doubler and did not overlap it.". If a number of people had cancelled because of some sort of fear of a switch or insurance scam going on, it seems very likely that they would have spoken out after the disaster. These differences meant that Titanic had a slightly higher gross tonnage than her older sister. The fields are mined and the moon is bright. Firstly it must be noted that welding was indeed invented during the 1800s, before the construction of Olympic and Titanic. The vessel which sailed out of Southampton on 10 April 1912 can only have been a 45,000 ton ship with the last minute addition of 1,000 tons of GRT in her B Deck public rooms and enclosed area on A Deck. A statement supported by the attraction of more than 4,000 jobs and $1.4 B in Cap Ex. This is confirmed by Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, who adds: "While it is true that some survivors such as Beesley and Chambers did speak about a port list, this was taken out of context as both were referring to April 14th. On the panels the number 400 is stencilled, but on the frames the number 401 is clearly visible. (2012) which exposes the theory as being completely impossible. Ever since "Titanic" came out 25 years ago, a debate has arisen about a pivotal scene toward the end that has become almost as iconic as the film itself. There were closer ships that would be more feasible. They were: Californian (19 miles) a Leyland Line, Westbound London to Boston During her construction and in this particular photograph the name was not very clear so the photographer took the liberty of sketching it in, which was not an unusual practice of the day. and would never get a job when they got out. Dr Robert Ballard admitted it was the Olympic So there is nothing surprising with the fact that an iceberg caused enough damage to the starboard side (not bottom) of the hull so as to breach watertight compartments that eventually led to its sinking. 3. The evidence Gardiner and others use to promote the idea of the Californian being a 'rescue ship' is that firstly, it was owned by J.P. Morgan (a "major figure at White Star"), left London in a hurry (as it could only do 12 knots and had to get there first) and was mysteriously sailing during a coal strike (when coal would have been more expensive) . The claim that he repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic seems to be without founding. Why would it be there? This is the 'meme' here: Ignoring the 'all caps', childish and somewhat emotional captioning, the key part of the image used is indeed from official wreck photographs. Additionally, especially as the ship was being labelled "practically unsinkable" how would they explain this 'mysterious' flooding to the inquiries that would no doubt take place afterward? The Britannic, when launched, had 16 portholes, consistent with the later port side configuration of the Titanic and the Olympic. J.P. Morgan and 50 others cancel passage This should not be surprising as the wheelhouse was built during the fitting out stage and so did not exist during the launch. So higher or sealed bulkheads would not necessarily have prevented Titanic from sinking, Difference in port side joint plating, 20. To confirm this Parks Stephenson visited B-52 with James Cameron on a later mission in 2001 and described the room as still retaining "several of its fittings. Firstly Titanic was not a "steel double-hulled vessel". 39. - Yes. Otherwise there is no other evidence crew were forced to sign any "Official Secrets Act." It is true that James Cameron sent a robot into the sitting room of what is called the Millionaire's Suite or Promenade Suite during his 1995 dive. As for the White Star Line itself, it was the The reality is that Olympic's yard number 400 is all over the scrapped items - and this is documented: (see more information on this here). Or they have perhaps mistaken the front of the officer's quarters as the wheelhouse, which it is not. Upon graduation in 1970, Fenton embarked upon a career as a freelance journalist and was hired (1971) to report on literature and politics for the New Statesman. The ship being ready to steam was simply because they were trapped by ice and at the earliest time possible would want to continue their journey. Hardly "numerous" or warranting any suspicion, especially considering He also confirmed that the ship was doing seventy-five revolutions, not 80 as was possible. Could it be 38. The swap was purely to keep the company in business. Now, almost thirty years later, the director has one major regret regarding his depiction of a significant character in the movie. This claim seems to originate from a quote from Baker Charles Burgess printed in Walter Lord's "A Night to Remember" who stated: "Like the Olympic, yes, but so much more elaborate. Promenade Suites, identical to Olympic's. was 60 years old at the time of the sinking, and was examined on Day 17 of the British Wreck Commissioner's Inquiry. Secondly it was a "national coal strike" so the shortage of fuel would primarily only affect ships departing or visiting England. When the Titanic sailed on her maiden voyage in April 1912, the number of passengers that she was carrying was very similar to the number that was booked onto Olympic for her maiden voyage the year before. However, as discussed in point 36 (below), almost certainly James Fenton was not aboard Titanic as he claimed. - Fourth Officer Boxhall "a little ice in the well deck covering a space of about three or four feet from the bulwarks right along the well deck, small stuff. (British Enquiry,Day 13) Was this done deliberately to help with the switch? As if somehow to counteract this fact, it has then been alleged that 'Titanic's insurance was increased by J. P. Morgan from $5 million to $12.5 million 5 days before her fateful journey'. Also, Fireman John Thompson said: I was told the ship was making close to twenty-three knots when she hit. Chirnside and Halpern discovered that "Titanics 546 mile run from noon Saturday to noon Sunday would be her best posted This is completely false. Olympic was the first to be launched, pronounced the largest and most luxuriest ship in the world. had switched ships at layup and that an insurance scam was going on. 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